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Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 19:24:05 PST   Listings
There must be a lot of pressure to slowly convert eBay into an Amazon type venue. I bought 6 paperback books recently on Amazon @ $.02, $.73, $2.50, $2.50, $3.00 and $5.84 for a total of $14.59 + shipping from three different sellers of $23.94 = grand total $38.53. I now have thousands of pages of recreational reading, well worth the money. Three of the books were shipped from England though the dealer had a US address. Method of mailing varied but all arrived sooner than expected. It was sure easier to find the books on Amazon than eBay. Why? Easier to input searches and only got relevant choices! Bingo.

Roger
BTW - All books are about moles by William Horwood. );>)
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 18:25:47 PST   Listings
Thanks Jimbo, well said. If only eBay would subscribe to the notion "leave well enough alone!"

The words "enhancement" and "update" make my blood run cold...
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 18:23:51 PST   Listings
Jimbo… I think there are too many “middle managers” at eBay whose job it is to boost revenue, and this is a very difficult thing to do when your “product” is solely dependent on people entirely outside the company who might or might not have something to sell, that buyers might or might not be interested in buying. All these “suits” know is what retailers do to drum up business, without realizing that running an auction is completely different from retailing, and so all the ideas they come up with to increase site traffic and turnover have the opposite effect.

Imagine a brick-and-mortar stamp auction behaving the way eBay does—not allowing any personal communication between buyers, keeping all sales anonymous, pushing ten different things at someone who only came in after one item. A successful auction is like a flower bud. You can’t get it to open by attaching wires and pulleys and weights on it; it will open up on its own.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 17:55:48 PST   Listings
NOIP,
"We were unable to run the search you entered. Please try again in a few minutes."

It is hard to understand why eBay is so insistent on making changes and so incompetent at implementing them.

Please, eBay, put your hands in your pockets and don't touch the code for any reason whatsoever. You haven't improved the process in several years. Making unnecessary changes is just plain stupid.

jimbo
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 17:40:08 PST   Listings
Clark… You’re right, I missed the mention of the “perf added”. With the new format I don’t often scroll all the way down, since the idea is that all the info should all be up top.

Nick… The 30 orange brown is one case where a genuine used is worth more than mint, because the biggest percentage of those stamps were rendered invalid before they could be used. Most were returned to post offices to be destroyed, but many more mint copies survived that used ones. I don’t recognize that as a customary cancel of the period.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 17:39:19 PST   Listings
I have just heard from a relative and a friend of his, between the 2 of them they have well over 250 items listed. None are available to bid on. Doing a search for my puny 2 items I cannot find mine lieste deither.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 17:35:45 PST   Listings
cmarsha and all - if eBay doesn't clear up the listing fiasco by tomorrow, it would be smart to cancel listings, even though a search for individual item, not by seller, may still show up. Hey, we need out listing's monesyworth!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 17:29:27 PST   Listings
NOIP… Very curious…

This seller has some of the earmarks of being a reincarnation of schuylerac/chickfrdstk, for those of you who remember that era on eBay. (If not check out SCADS—Stamp Community Against Dodgy Sellers.) Earlier this afternoon I was able to view all the lots he has for sale—now suddenly there is no longer a list available.

What’s curious is that on earlier sales he demonstrates quite a bit of knowledge about stamps, yet on the latest crop he reverts to pretty much “what you see is what you get”.

One thing schuylerac was very good at was reperfing, the assumption being that he might have had access to a perfing machine, and I notice some of the current crop of offerings are very small compared to how big they should be.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 16:58:08 PST   Listings
Re the Ebay search snafu, I have two items for sale that close in 48 hours, both currently going for minimums, one to an overseas bidder.
If this is not back up tommorrow morning I plan to cancel both sales.
This is getting pretty serious, hope they get this back up soon but am not hopeful.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 16:57:31 PST   Listings
NOIP -
If you go and read other Discussion Boards, or even google "eBay search 2009" you will find many threads discussing today's problems. All sellers should kepp track of their auctions to make sure they get the proper credit. This is likely to be a weekend event. The real techies won't be in until Monday morning 8:00am PST. This really brings back memories and almost makes me teary! ( ; >(

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 16:51:18 PST   Listings
Re listings not appearing: eBay no longer tells me to 'try again in a few minutes," and now just shows that I have 0 items listed. Appears to be happening to some sellers, others not. An inqiry to eBay's 'help' returns something about 'we're too busy to deal with your question now." So I hope they really ARE busy, trying to fix things!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 16:09:12 PST   Listings
The turkey came early and brought this.

Phil
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 16:07:52 PST   Listings
Mitch/Ant-Ra

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 15:36:25 PST   Listings
None of the searches here in UK are working properly either, I guess there are going to be few cross sellers!
cheers
Peter
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 14:04:00 PST   Listings
ant-ra, Mitch, Happy Birthday blessings from the Ozarks as well.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 14:02:05 PST   Listings
Yes, my Norway search hangs for a short while then returns nothing. And I don't mean a result page with no hits, I mean it returns nothing, "The document contains no data".

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 13:59:38 PST   Listings
Roger, my cover has the same cancel dated -7 II. 1936. It also has been opened by Ethiopian military censorship, then arrived damaged in Germany.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 13:58:39 PST   Listings
Looks like eBay is indeed having trouble today.

"We were unable to run the search you entered. Please try again in a few minutes."
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 13:30:45 PST   Listings
Additional info -
1 April 1936, Ethiopia. Sort of suggests first day for series. I wonder how the evidence stacks up for the earlier 29 January date. I know you are all wondering why I have an Ethiopian card - it's the cancel - a Güller from Hüttikon, Switzerland. One of my world examples leading towards an exhibit some day. I did notice that non of Mitch's stamps has a clear datable cancel, maybe they are favor cancels to make money for the post office.

A little detailed backgroud shows anything could have happened during that period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Italo-Abyssinian_War

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 13:16:49 PST   Listings
jaywild,

The left side of the #30A or #30 was added. Seller sort of mentions it.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 12:47:44 PST   Listings
Mitch....may the birthday bunny bring you plenty of stamps, tidbits, and other goodies!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 12:06:19 PST   Listings
Happy Birthday also to Billy Burch aka Jackstay.
I can't remember the last time he posted on the board.
I recieved a Birthday card from him last week and says he's still kicking. I was going to send him a card but totally spaced it out. Now feel guilty.

Off for a walk in the woods with my pack.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 12:01:08 PST   Listings
Alec Sure do! I've been chasing that stamp for years but it's usually offered in sets or not at all. Tis a nice Birthday present!




Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:55:29 PST   Listings
Mitch Do you still need the Berlin Goethe 10 Pf ? If yes I need your home address please.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:50:51 PST   Listings
Jim Your link won't open for me. Not sure if ebay has some sort of blocker on trying to use their enlarged image URL but assuming I have found the right 5 cent sure looks like reperfed left side to me. Cancel removal and shade I honestly don't know.

Mitch Many happy 59th returns and best wishes.

Eusc Meeting I'd forgotten that next weekend is Thanksgiving weekend for those in the US so will have to reschedule the meeting for the first weekend in December. That being 5-6th and the theme to be any stamp or cover used to depict an Anniversary or special event.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:48:03 PST   Listings
jaywild: Looks reperfed on left. Cannot imagine why anyone would add a fake cancel unless it covers up a scuff mark. The mint is certainly worth more.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:44:49 PST   Listings
Mitch, thanks, my Scott is from 1993, looks like it was wrong then but has been corrected.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:39:57 PST   Listings
Thanks much for all the Birthday wishes!
A few Dominican Rep and Spainish stampw arrived in the mail today. Was hoping to see the PR's from Jeff so I could call them a birthday present.

Bjorn I assume you are talking about the set at the top of this page. My Scott says they were issued January 29th 1936.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:23:27 PST   Listings
Nick Thank you.

Mitch Happy birthday. Did you get any stamps as presents?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:19:29 PST   Listings
NOIP… Let’s try that again

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:18:13 PST   Listings
NOIP… Does anybody else think this is reperfed at left and has fake cancel marks?

The color looks to me like orange brown, which would make it a 30, very hard to come across used because the stamp was recalled (due to the Civil War) shortly after that color was issued.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:15:11 PST   Listings
Mitch, happy birthday!

Anyone familiar with stamps of Ethiopia? Scott says the centimes overprints on the 1931 series were issued April 1, 1936, but I have a cover to Germany franked with one (and several un-overprinted ones) clearly postmarked ADDIS-ABEBA 7-II-36. That should be II for Feb, not 11, it's also hand dated by a German postal clerk 22/2 on the back.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:12:07 PST   Listings
Roger… That must be it!!!

:o) :o) :o)

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 11:03:53 PST   Listings
jaywild -
This fits in with eBay's promise to not start anything new before the most important selling season of the year. It fialed to take into account its own announcemnt that I referenced below - auctions will include competitors listings at the bottom of opened auctions. Mind you this is a test that many (read large lazy lot describers) wanted to help their sales, on the backs of the little sellers. I din't find how much it automatically cost to play this game, but for a seller to opt out requires action on the seller's part. It won't get resolved until Monday, as all adjustments are scheduled for Saturday mornings, holiday or no holiday.

Roger
PS: I've not had any problems, must be a PC issue. );>)
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:59:37 PST   Listings
Hey eBay… Since you don’t seem to care whether people can search your listings today, I’m going over to Delcampe and shop there. Forget you guys!!!

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:57:31 PST   Listings
NOIP… This is really ridiculous!

If it takes 2 or 3 minutes to open up a simple search, I doubt anyone is going to be pleased.

Dear eBay—quit trying to fix something that isn’t broken. Whatever it is you’re trying to do today, please stop it.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:54:43 PST   Listings
NOIP… Anybody notice how hard it is to get into any eBay category? The computer has been grinding away for more than three minutes trying to open up the “Movies” category, after having taken more than a minute to open up “Arizona license plates”.

Must be more improvements!!!

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:47:15 PST   Listings
Mitchell HAPPY BIRTHDAY MY FRIEND, MANY MORE....
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:46:25 PST   Listings
NOIP Postman arrived and brought me this cover. This is a scan of the reverse Below is the the information of the flight.

German adhesives cancelled Hamburg m/c cds 16 November 1934. DLH red staging cachet [star at right] applied in Stuttgart. Southbound flight of the DLH South Atlantic airmail service flight L37 leaving Stuttgart 18 November 1934. Mail transferred to PANAIR on arrival in Natal 21 November. Junkers Ju-52/3 Zephyr left Seville for Las Palmas at 0740 hrs. This flight marked the beginning of regular night flights on this sector of journey. For this flight service vessel Schwabenland based in Porto Praia because of yellow fever quaratine at Bathurst. Maranhão arrival cds 26 November 34 on reverse.

Enjoy charlie
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:45:19 PST   Listings
Happy Birthday

Mitchell
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:38:36 PST   Listings
You finally caught up with me.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:37:45 PST   Listings
Ant-Ra…

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:10:12 PST   Listings
Many happy returns of the day!

Phil
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 10:02:13 PST   Listings
Mitchell


Happy Birthday to You, Happy Birthday to You, Happy Birthday to You

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 09:52:08 PST   Listings
Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to meeeheeeeee, Happy Birthday to me.
59 stoney Gray steps towards the grave <:~`)
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 08:09:21 PST   Listings
Jeff -

Garfield the Cat is fine and a fun character, but not within categories relating to 19th century US Presidents on stamps. KIt's called "keywords gone haywire". This example is one reason eBay doesn't respond to complaints about keyword spamming, or the mailing pull down menu that lists every country in the world. When I start selling again next year I will most cetainly include the postage calculator. I won't need to participate in eBay's Item Promotion program since I'll get any stamp collctor who uses a country name in his/her search! Of course it won't work on those lookers who go straight to a category then only look in that category. Since there is only one division for Switzerland on eBay.com "Stamps" the number of unwanted returns is incredible. I would really like to sit beside an intermediate stamp collector who for the first time decides to look for things on eBay. It would be an education, and probably very difficult for me to keep my mouth shut.

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-21-09 at 01:00:34 PST   Listings
Roger - Not another Garfield-the Cat hater??

I have actually bought a couple items from their silly cross references.

And there is nothing like old-fashioned digging as I would have missed this item due to the sellers incorrect catalog number.

Now back to bed, hopefully.

Good morning to all in daylight.

Jeff
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 22:02:31 PST   Listings
talking about temperature, it has been over 40C. every day for about a week and a few more to go before it cools down to the low 30s. I had to go shopping yesterday afternoon about 2pm. and the temp. in the car was showing 28C. in the garage and jumped to 46C. about 10 minutes outside. The AC was on almost all day and night, looking forward to my next electricity bill,

David B.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 20:37:58 PST   Listings
aaah - inundated

A great way to have the high power businesses trample on your good Titles and item descriptions. All they need is keyword spamming to get to your page!

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 20:33:38 PST   Listings
Another Great eBay idea - from the Announcements Board. No t only are we now unindated with irrelevant items showing up in our searches, but now we will have "related" items from other sellers on the auctions we do click on.

Just for reference this week I won a US 1887 cover to the Hotel Schweizerhof. Nice. It was franked with a 5 cent President Garfield stamp. So what shows on the completed auction page where the qwhole top of the page is covered with other listings - why Garfield the cat. Clothes, coffe cups, etc. What a waste of programming effort, and wasted internet packets, waste of time waiting for pages to download. AAARRGGGH. Now we'll probably get them downloaded on auction we wish to view.

Roger

"Earlier this year, with the launch of the new item page, we announced that sellers would have the opportunity to have their listings appear on their own and other sellers’ relevant item pages.
This is already happening on item pages when the listing is ended (closed item pages). Starting tomorrow, November 17, you may begin to see merchandise on the bottom of item pages for active listings as well. While we usually refrain from making changes close to the holiday season, the test results showed a considerable increase in sold items, and we wanted to offer this functionality to our selling community ASAP. This is a great opportunity to boost exposure for your listings to the most interested buyers during the busy holiday season. Items are chosen based on popularity–the items in the same category most watched by buyers.
Cross-merchandising on other sellers’ item pages is optional–you can opt out at any time by changing your settings in My eBay. To opt out, go to My eBay > Account > Marketing Tools > Item Promotion > Promote Similar Items.
Remember, if you do opt out, your relevant items will not appear on other sellers’ item pages, so consider the trade-offs carefully. This is a great way to get your items in front of more eager holiday shoppers.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 20:06:31 PST   Listings
Hi Dunc, Hi Brian -

Hey guys come around more often. We're missing your adventurouos spirit. Reminds me of years gone bye when all we had to do was chose very ambiguous words to describe fakes and cinderellas. And who can not forget the troll with the innate ability to create "bad" words out of two unrelated words. Who read these posts anyway. I was referred here by an individual Australian after an email discussion concernign fakes on eBay. Looks like we could be starting the second decade the same way. There are a couple of European sellers offering fakes with no mention until one reads the item description, then it's stated he's not an expert, so scan shows all! These don't start at $1.00, they start over $50.

BTW - I'm starting to watch the weather reports leading up to my trip next week.

Click for Zurich Airport, Switzerland Forecast


Roger
Brr, but the days are warmer than Port Townsend right now!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 19:40:04 PST   Listings
And antonius-ra
Glad the CanRevs arrived. Tried to get a sampling of diff types, provinces, etc.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 19:38:02 PST   Listings
ThanKs to infla-alec in re National Business College.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 19:29:13 PST   Listings
Previous post (of course) relates to Canadian revenues. My little, quaint & curious philatelic niche.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 19:26:23 PST   Listings
?Hmmmm?
Lets see... you take a 50 cent cv stamp, mis-list it as a $15 cv stamp, and...... be darned if you don't have someone open the bidding at $3.99
Go figure. Wouldn't be so hard to believe, if.... they were at least the same color. Nope; one carmine, the other olive.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 15:45:25 PST   Listings
Woohoo,

get a week off work for Thanksgiving.

Gives me time to play with stamps and my web site.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 15:07:18 PST   Listings
/b> ...............<:~`(
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 15:06:45 PST   Listings
Mark Received the Canadian Revenue care package today. Thanks much, they will make a nice addition.
I'll have to try and find my catalog so I can order them correctly.


NOIP I updated Austrian and Belgium Semi-Postals on
my site. Adding around 400 to get the stamp count over the 35,000 mark. The goal for now is to get it up to 50K items shown.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 14:06:45 PST   Listings
Nice group of Confedrates being auctioned today in SF by Schuyler Rumsey. I have my bids in.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 14:06:02 PST   Listings
Ahh, its back to working again!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 13:42:20 PST   Listings
Hiya Briguy!

Well you've obviously been slumming again, cruising through the CSA listings.

The biggest change that would clean up that category would be to require that all the freshly printed home-made creations be labeled as MODERN items. Just because the ink is dry doesn't mean they are vintage, "in need of further study" or "excellent reference items".

It's deceptive when a seller knows his junk is modern and pretends it might be something better.

I'm gonna try to contact you through the eBay system, to discuss some of this further via email...

-Dunc
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 13:29:58 PST   Listings
Duncton Wood - brother of Knockton Wood?
Grin.

My wife reports it is a problem in central North Texas.
About the size of 2 ordinary states. Double grin.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 13:23:06 PST   Listings
God help the sellers on EBay if I ever take over and run things.

I'm SICK of idiots calling fakes "cinderellas", and crappy low grade reproductions -- "De la Rue" issues.

When I become the King of Ebay, there will be changes! For starters, those listing will be forced to attend a three day philatelic seminar. Fail to do this, and my jack booted storm troopers will confiscate your stamps, and then exile you to a gulag where you whittle down whole fir trees into a single removable hinge,.....using solely a dull knife!

OK -- rant over. Yeah, I DO feel a bit better now
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 13:10:51 PST   Listings
roger ROFL only problem I'm having here is the temp is down near 70 and having to search around for a jacket and the woolen jamies. Oh and 1 other problem... I keep checking my mail box for a delivery notice about a box of apples that I'm sure you sent recently to me that have not arrived :)
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 12:33:16 PST   Listings
Jeff -
Last evening our internet was down at about 8pm PST, and didn't come back. Got bored and continued reading my book about moles - Duncton Wood. );>)
Internet back this morning.

I have noticed recently that Jim Lawler is discouraging fellow collectors from posting on this Chat. If he would keep his opinions to himself all would be great! LOL

And Charlie - what can I say? Never any problems.....

Roger
Joke, joke, joke. );>) in case anyone gets upset.

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 11:34:00 PST   Listings
Jeff No problems here so far....
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 11:14:32 PST   Listings
Anyone else having diminished internet speed.
My Verizon wireless is down to dialup or less, took 3 minutes to log in here.
At my wife's office, State of Texas, their internet is down.
Looks like perhaps a widespread problem?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-20-09 at 05:42:11 PST   Listings
Bookmark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 18:49:18 PST   Listings
manhattenconcepts: 9N35-41 Mint = $211.75 Used = $341.25
9N61 = 42.50M/65.00U 9N63 = 7.70M/50.00U 9n67 = 45.00M/17.00U Huge premiums for mint never hinged
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 18:22:11 PST   Listings
The offer for 2010 Scott Classic values is still good. Anyone wanting to know the values between years 1840 -1940 need only to post the Scott number(s).
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 17:23:21 PST   Listings
Thanks, ALL No intention of replying. malolo Yes, it was identical. Before I could send it to spoof, I had to send it to myself, then forwarded it to spoof. Hopefully, the geniuses at eBay won't decide that the original came from me. Sending it to myself was the only way I could forward ALL of it. Try cut or copy/paste with those My eBay messages.
My concern, and should be likewise to all other eBayers, is what about the supposed security of using My eBay. Had it come directly into my own mailbox, I would not be as concerned, just forward it to spoof. But, in My eBay?
Sent it to spoof just before I posted 1st queery in here. Waiting to see if spoof replies.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 15:58:21 PST   Listings
peetah… Yes, don’t reply to the message, just forward to—

spoof@ebay.com

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 15:47:53 PST   Listings
peetah -
Check your My eBay email.

Did the message appear identical to the one I just sent to you?

If so, anyone can click on the ID of an eBay user and claim they bought an item.
That was just a test.
Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 15:44:02 PST   Listings
Peetah Forward to email spoof site (security)and ask them to check it.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 15:43:42 PST   Listings
peetah -

I would reply in a courteous manner explaining you don't give out your email address to others. The use if eBay is satisfactory and the winners who use Paypal are given direct links to pay, no need for knowing email addresses. UNLESS, there is a problem with eBay and combining postage, etc which eBay doesn't always get right. In which case the buyer (not anyone else) will require the seller's email address to pay directly on the Paypal site.

If he had bid higher, he would have had a wonderful opportunity to pay you. );>)

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 15:14:34 PST   Listings
Just received this in My eBay:
Hello from New Zealand. Re item 120489661725.can I ask a silly question. How do I pay you for this as I don't see a pay now option of the screen.I always use paypal but in the process through paypal it asks for an email address for the person to be paid. Regards,
This person does not have a winning bid on any of my past listings. Indeed, I have no bid at all recorded from this bidder within a 90 day period.
Actually, the winning bidder of that item just left me a positive feedback concluding the transaction.
Is this some new scam? Re reading the email, it appears this person is looking for my name and email address. I plan no reply. I wonder if the integrity of eBay's "My eBay" has been compromised.
Any other user ever receive something like this?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 14:38:11 PST   Listings
Can someone please let me know the latest Scott values for West Berlin 1949 75th Anniv' UPU Scott # 9N35-41 vfu set, 9N61,9N63 and 9N67 ? Thank you in advance.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 13:25:14 PST   Listings
Hi - ); >)

i hada ? but forgot pleeez help
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 06:25:50 PST   Listings
Bookmark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-19-09 at 02:13:59 PST   Listings
Mark Assuming the address is 33 O'Connor Street & was formerly National Business College, it was founded in 1866.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 23:14:16 PST   Listings
peetah, my sorce for the Formosa stamp was Michel East-Asia 1999.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 22:02:47 PST   Listings
Not a working link Charlie, but there are hundreds of other places on the net to get it.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 21:45:20 PST   Listings
NOIP Below you will find a link to some pictures of the 9-11 attack of the twin towers. These photos have been recently de-classified US goverment photos. This File Is a Large one

911_Aerial_Photos.Recently_Disclassified.pps (6239.3 KB)
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 19:28:16 PST   Listings
I was happy when I came home tonight and had the following on my dinning room table:
Scott Specialty Pages Montserrat to 1989 Item number: 320444909057
Scott Spec Pages for Anguilla Item number: 260503221928
These pages add to my collection of Scott Specialty pages for mint stamps.
David Snyder
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 19:00:46 PST   Listings
bjornmu How did you know the Formosa stamp was issued in 1888? Is your source available online? The link/images David B. sent had no information that I could gleen.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 18:13:48 PST   Listings
Thanks,iomoon Duhhhh !
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 17:56:40 PST   Listings
Off, Bold!!!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 17:56:17 PST   Listings
AIG(Anyone In General):
For those who are good at finding info; When was musgrove's national business college founded? I can't seem to locate any historical data on it.
ThanKs.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 17:41:20 PST   Listings
peetah

Taiwan is listed as Republic of China, as opposed to People's Republic of China.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 17:17:59 PST   Listings
Always fascinated by the online resources many posters seem to be able to find. Thanks again, David B. Meanwhile, I can't seem to be able to find Formosa or Taiwan in my 2006 Scott !
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 16:12:14 PST   Listings
Peetah,

There is no doubt that it is the genuine design, whether it an original proof is difficult to tell,

http://taipics.com/stamps

David B.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 15:13:45 PST   Listings
Thanks, David B. 1371 it is then.
Just finished some pork fried rice. As near as I could understand the salesclerk, the Formosa stamp translates to the 20 denomination on the left side and Taiwan, China Post Office on the right side. Then he got into the Chin dynasty, that is this stamp was after that dynasty. He started talking about the paper and he thought it was too new to be that old as the Chin dynasty ended in 1911 or something like that. Please understand, it was a very difficult conversation and I am writing from memory of that difficult conversation. Since he translated Post Office, at least we know now it is not a cinderella. But then again, I guess anyone can print up a label that had the same inscripton. He also did not see any symbolism of the subject.
My own resource (designed 3 stamps, well credentialed and published) said if he had it in hand, he would know if it was rice paper or not. Hopefully, he will be in attendance at our next club meeting.
So, I ask the question again, If it is indeed rice paper, what significance would that be?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 14:56:47 PST   Listings
Jeff: not too late, but impossible to tell in that era if it's contrived or not. I think most people just assume 20th century bisects to be contrived. It's cute, and the bidders seemed to think well of it, though.

jimbo2: thanks - guess I'm going to have to check it out! There must be more material out there than I expected.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 14:36:58 PST   Listings
Peetah,

1371, Henty, no premium,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henty,_New_South_Wales

David B.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 13:33:26 PST   Listings
Is this cancel 1371 or 37? Any idea which town?
RE Formosa Having Chinese (food) for supper, back later
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 12:08:39 PST   Listings
dbenson - bjornmu Paper is thin, light. I want to call it rice paper, but I have never had rice paper in hand and identified as such. I have google rice paper and find no conflict with the paper. I have emailed a resource asking if he could identify rice paper if he had it in hand.
If it is indeed rice paper, what think you? I wonder what the message says. Time to visit local Chinese restaurant, I guess.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 11:34:34 PST   Listings
Peetah,

could be either a proof or a photograph of a proof, I presume the latter but without actually seeing the item and trying to date the paper is difficult to tell,

David B.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 11:25:38 PST   Listings
peetah, must be reprint/proof/whatever. Stamps like this were issued for Norhern Formosa (Taiwan) in 1888: 20 Cash green and 20 Cash carmine, but your is neither and looks to "neat".
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 10:57:16 PST   Listings
Stamp or Cinderella? Formosa China Scott number -- value?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 09:03:21 PST   Listings
I did receive a letter from Netherlands yesterday with an Elvis Heartbreak Hotel stamp on it.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 08:13:59 PST   Listings
Aloha -
Well I guess that Swiss stamp is real. Artists 1, Bureaucrats 0. I'll bet the US stamp committee would never some close to approving something like that unless Beetle Bailey was climbing the mountian. PLus Disneyland would want a percentage for copyrighted mountain!

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 07:22:24 PST   Listings
paperhistory

Hi Matt,

Yes, the "Chagall on Stamps" Handbook is new, so new in fact that it's not yet listed on the ATA website! It is handbook #159 by Mark Shleifer. There is an ad and order form for it in the Nov.-Dec. Topical Times issue.

I also had let my membership lapse earlier this year but rejoined a couple of months ago and this was my first issue received since then.

Jimbo2


Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 06:00:22 PST   Listings
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Posted by   ( ) on Nov-18-09 at 05:47:19 PST   Listings
jayjim- That certainly was a great find for the seller.
I didn't know the source of your 11c.

Matt this OHIO item too late for you?
If you are familiar with it, is it a contrived item?

Jeff
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 19:14:21 PST   Listings
Jeff… Those LIFE magazines were all part of a large lot de-acquisitioned from a library. At one time they had been donated to the library and bound into volumes. That’s where I got my 11¢ prexy second-class transient rate use. That seller has been parceling those out of eBay for some time, and making a mint off them.

The addressee is Imell Razook—not a name you run across every day.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 18:33:04 PST   Listings
jayjim you see the Life magazine listings with Prexies.
Now, those are worth diving for.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 18:18:08 PST   Listings
jeff Glad you saw my Liberties post. No point diving into the dumpster.Thanx. But, She Who IS, after reading about the 220b, still wishes I would go into the dumpster anyway. Me, I try not to think about it.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 17:56:12 PST   Listings
The Swiss stamp is valid.
It was printed that way with the name and value alternately reversed.

The point of the stamp was geological, indicating that Africa had collided with Europe to uplift the Alps.

I think its a neat stamp.

Even if the Matterhorn is not volcanic.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 17:18:13 PST   Listings
Roger… That Swiss “stamp” you linked to was apparently composed of a picture of the Matterhorn superimposed over an upside-down map of Africa—see here.

Why anybody would make such a thing is beyond me.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 17:04:42 PST   Listings
antonius-ra
Another day or two and you'll get a small package in the mail. Mailed it Monday.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 15:19:26 PST   Listings
Roger Makes absolutely no sense to me. Nothing in the description either, like the seller did not even notice it. I can't imagine that the denomination and Helvetia were printed seperately.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 15:11:25 PST   Listings
Aloha -
Anyone able to explain this design?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SWITZERLAND-Maps_W0QQitemZ320450235444

I have no interest in the stamp, but something ain't right. LOL

Roger
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 14:47:50 PST   Listings
peetah - I see you also asked over at the Liberty board.
If a small cover likely under $5, a long cover in the $1 - $2 range,
depends on any eye appeal it might have.
Jeff
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 14:42:18 PST   Listings
Jeff That sounds great! Thanks.........CYE
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 13:46:01 PST   Listings
peetah… Re: Liberty dual franking cover—I can only speak for myself, and only to say that the only Liberty covers I am interested in are solos paying a correct rate in the correct time period. That your cover features both Lee and Lincoln is interesting. It wouldn’t hurt to list it I suppose, there may well be collectors out there looking for just that sort of thing.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 10:53:20 PST   Listings
Mitch - I took a look at your Puerto Rico looks like I can add page 1, 7; page 2, 6; and, page 1, 1 for a total of 14 items. Need your postal addy, Jeff
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 10:42:06 PST   Listings
Hi Fred

Nice to see you back here.

One expects it to be cold in Maine, but it was down to 18F down in the desert SW this morning.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 10:35:16 PST   Listings
After a five year hiatus returned to the balcony. Slipped on a banana peel and fell out. Have closed in and insulated a unheated porch. Added bookcases and put in lesser albums. Gets cold in Portland Maine. Probably 10 to 20 degrees F or -14 to -24 C inside the porch. Any suggestions or advice about damage to mint or hinged stamps from cold would be appreciated. Thanks,Fred
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 10:30:31 PST   Listings
NOIP..... I got one of those crazy ideas last Saturday which took up half of the day. I decided to see how many stamps were represented on my website now. I was pretty close in my estimate with the total being 34,676 (give or take a few) and close to 170 issuing authorities.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 09:31:27 PST   Listings
Alec Thanks for the link to the Hermes heads. Looks like it should be of great help in sorting them out.
As per our recent conversation, I just finished scanning and uploading the first 120 years of Great Britain. Like I said it is rather weak but I thought I might as well put it up because I am
not likely to be adding much more to it.

JWS Yes, that is quite a striking stamp as our several of the Crete designs. Sorry it's not a volcanoe <:~`(
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 09:19:52 PST   Listings
srailkb No, I am convinced what I saw were caps on right 2's. At the time I had just returned to collecting and checked Scott on every one of the 220's in the collection. Not seeing any Scott reference to 220b I thought what I had were just an oddity. The image is as fresh in my mind as if it were yesterday. It is exactly as it appears in the listed 220b.
Right after I posted my previous 220b comments, I spoke to "She Who Is" (better known as the Mrs.)and bored her with a very quick synopsis of the current topic. She said she too remembered having pointed out the 220a b and c's. I then had her read what I posted and she repeated she remembered having the conversation with me. By the way, the collection that got me back into collecting was her elderly uncle.
Still wondering about the Registered Liberties cover question I posted earlier and repeated here: Is a non philatelic, Registered cover with a 30 cent R E Lee + 4 cent A. Lincoln Liberties worth a dumpster dive? I tossed one and it is sitting someplace in the recycling dumpster.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 08:59:44 PST   Listings
peetah, I once handled a very nice specialized collection of the 2c 1890. I don't recall any "cap on right 2" stamps, but there were a number of oddities, including some over-inkings/under-inkings that gave the appearance of "caps" (but weren't.) There were others showing recurring die varieties (damaged transfers, double transfers, etc.), some of which also created a "cap-like" appearance (but weren't.) I'm wondering if what you recall might have been something like that. Unfortunately, I no longer have that collection, so can't go back and check/scan what was there.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 08:46:39 PST   Listings
Aloha -

Nice surprise on reasing the message on this 1903 card.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250522132407

" Amost successful ascent!! Reached top at 6:55am. Splendidview and good moon all the way up. Down again at 12:15 making 10 hrs in all, which they tell me is rrecord time, except for the guides!! . . ."

I bought the card because the Riffelberg cancel is scarce and while this card was offered I saw another one offered by a Swiss dealer, BIN $60, and not nearly as clean as this. Regretably the sender signed it "Len" making it impossible to identify him.

Roger


Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 07:30:14 PST   Listings
Ken S… I stand corrected on the gum breaker ridges Kans-Nebr.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 07:28:58 PST   Listings
Liberties series Is a 30 cent + 4 cent Liberties on a non philatelic Registered cover worth a dumpster dive? Yeah, I tossed one. But, it is MY dumpster. So, is it worth a dumpster dive? Interesting was the juxtaposition of Robert E Lee, side by side with Abraham Lincoln.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 06:15:05 PST   Listings
220b I returned to stamp collecting about 15 years ago. At that time I was given a collection by a family member. In it were hundreds of 220's Looking to my Scott at the time I read about the caps on 2. I found caps on left, on right and on both. I do recall the caps on right looked exactly as it appears in the certified 220b. I also sold here on eBay over a year ago, a MNH 220 with cap, but cannot remember left or right. I don't recall what I did with the other caps on 2's..ESPECIALLY the cap on 2's right. Maybe they are buried somewhere here in my Phila-Den, as parts of the family collection have been mingled with parts of all the auction lots I have aquired over 15 years. A needle in a haystack? I'm not sure I still have the haystack anymore, after all who needs 100's of the ordinary 2's.
I don't know as this has contributed anything to the conversation, except to say that there is at least one other believer in the existence of a 220b
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 06:13:45 PST   Listings
Neat cover Paper History
:8^ )
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 03:09:15 PST   Listings
"If the stamps are mint, they must show one 'gum breaker ridge' to be genuine"

Genuine Kans/Nebr stamps can show 2 gum breaker ridges if they're positioned just right, but most show just one.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 01:36:22 PST   Listings
Thanks Charlie, Mick & Bill

Found it! So another 2 or 3 pages to get to the actual place to ask a question – a real improvement as far as I’m concerned

Colin the sarcastic!

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-17-09 at 01:26:42 PST   Listings
Phil, Charlie T Relisted 220b
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 22:38:21 PST   Listings
revnue Here is a scan on Kans-Neb overprints Fakes from the book counterfeit Kans-Neb OVERPRINTS ON 1922-31 Issue by Robert M Schoen and James T. De Voss circa 1972 A.P.S. Handbook series. All the scans are known Fakes. Best I can come up with in my library.

charlie
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 22:28:46 PST   Listings
Never mind! Found it by digging around...
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 22:20:15 PST   Listings
Hi--what's the way to get hold of a seller's contact information? I ahve done eBay business with a guy but I need to call him.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 21:58:18 PST   Listings
Bill Seymour… Even a receipt date is OK for my purposes, so the Postage Paid item was classy IMO.

revenue-bc-2*… This is the only reference I have for Kans-Nebr overprints. If the stamps are mint, they must show one “gum breaker ridge” to be genuine.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 21:06:12 PST   Listings
anyone;
What is the latest reference source on Kans/Nebr overprints. fakes & forgeries? Thanks in advance!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 19:09:06 PST   Listings
Colin IIRC you need to scroll down at least one page before you get to the real ask a question button. Try it again.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 19:06:33 PST   Listings
Good News Jim. It looked like there might be one or two of interest, though nothing really unusual. I liked the bulk rate cover with the date stamp, but had no idea if it was a date mailed or date received...
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 18:09:50 PST   Listings
Matt: what dads and granddads will do for little girls

The SD cover is neat, I am sure the SD was added at forwarding.
And I noted the handstamp of Fee claimed by office of first address was changed to read 2nd address.
Didn't have an example in my exhibit, never seen it before actually. Good pickup!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 18:08:53 PST   Listings
xzephyr: Go to ask a question. When the question list comes up - click on "other" - it then usually comes up with a direct link. Cick on thet link and type in any question to the seller.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 17:56:45 PST   Listings
jimbo2: thanks. I looked at the ATA website earlier today and noticed they had a checklist from a few years ago. But there is something newer? (I'm not a current ATA member. I suppose I should correct that! - I have been a member in the past)

Jeff: I recall letting my daughter paint my toenails over Thanksgiving a couple of years ago. It turned out to be a bit of an issue when I took the kids swimming when we were staying in a hotel, complete with my painted toenails...
Incidentally, I thought this was a nice special delivery pickup recently. It's for my Ohio machine collection but it looks like the sd stamp was added as part of the forwarding process (though I suppose it can't be ruled out that the mailing office just missed canceling it).
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 17:03:48 PST   Listings
Phil I was told that it was re-listed early this am.. I have as yet found it though. The message that was passed along to me was that it had to be re-wrote to conform to ebay.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 16:58:57 PST   Listings
Colin scroll down you will find the tab to ask direct question..
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 16:45:42 PST   Listings
NOIP A&S

I have just tried to ask the seller if he realizes he has put the wrong title to item 380178516065 but in the new “improved” “Ask a question” I am not allowed to do so – there is no category for it now! Well done Ebay.

Colin the disgusted.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 16:26:13 PST   Listings
try again
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 16:24:47 PST   Listings
NOIP/all:
Introducing the
jumbo jets
of the Canada revenue Law Stamps. Supreme court stamps.
US flag stamp for size comparison.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 16:02:00 PST   Listings
Mitchell

I particularly like the Crete Mt. Ida stamp. Tis a pity that it is composed of limestone rather than volcanic.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 16:00:14 PST   Listings
Mitch You might find this site pretty useful for identifying the Large and Small Hermes Heads
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 15:32:33 PST   Listings
Bill Seymour… Thanks for all the great covers, they arrived today.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 15:29:54 PST   Listings
I've just added Greece>/a> and Crete to my website. My early Greece is very weak. I've always had trouble identifying the earlies and don't trust the abilities of most sellers to do so either.
Since there were only two European countries missing from the site I decided to add it (weak or not). The other missing country is Great Britain, also rather weak early, which I plan on scanning next.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 14:52:20 PST   Listings
Steve Like a bad penny he keeps coming back. :-( Yet I know for certain he has been contacted by previous buyers and refunds have been requested. So far I'm aware given. Looks to me like Frank is willing to repeat the offence and hope that eventually a buyer won't request a refund on a forgery.

This kind of seller deserves no sympathy, especially after I know for a fact he has been sent scans of how to detect the forged overprints,( Canadian ones at least). How good or bad the Nebraska overprints are I don't know.

Bjorn Berlin C & date you quote is in the time frame for D65 usage, though no covers are known with that date. Easter Sunday would I have thought though to be a day when almost everything was closed.But I can't confirm that as fact. Would also need to see scan to tell if the full cancel is known as a possible forgery. Or if you have the Infla Band 13 book have a look and see yourself.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 14:13:27 PST   Listings
Frank's at it again. Another Canada 010a It's his fifth one on sale?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 14:01:45 PST   Listings
Uh-oh, 27.3.21 was not juat a Sunday, it was Easter Sunday. Not a likely day for an official stamp to have been used...
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 13:58:45 PST   Listings
Alec, I actually have a D65 myself, with a fairly well centered cancel BERLIN C 27.3.21 9-10N. Don't even remember where I have it from, probably one of two collections I've bought. It's definitely not bought seperately as genuine. No marks on the back.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 13:26:36 PST   Listings
Anything more on the mysterious 220b? Nothing in Linn's this week.

Phil
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 13:08:19 PST   Listings
paperhistory

Saw your post below from Nov.14 asking about a checklist for Marc Chagall on stamps. There is a new publication just out from the ATA, American Topical Association, that has this info.

Jimbo2
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 12:49:43 PST   Listings
Bjorn Regards the Scott 03 Michel D 65 the scan I have seen and think it has a pretty good chance of being genuine. The date and place of use, Radolfzell both fit the known time frame.
Ken C has the info for who is competant enough to expertize that stamp and I wish him well if he goes ahead with submission.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 11:44:23 PST   Listings
We've had a tankless propane water heater in our hunting lodge in eastern OR for about 20 years with no problems.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 11:38:41 PST   Listings
Thank you for the tankless water heater input suggestions.
They are available in 220v, natural gas, and propane.
The point about the igniter is a good one,
we have propane heaters in our home and they have become a problem in lighting the pilot.
The closet where the current traditional tank heater is located is plumbed for propane and wired for 220.
The existing tank is by itself on a double 30 amp breaker.

I know there is little interest here in what I collect but nontheless, in today's mail:

An oversize PPC mailed with a 3c IGY commem which was charged 1-cent due because of its size.

and

A
4c Overland mail commem printed matter to Belgium, with address correction.

Jim - neat item that phone book, I like esoteric examples of rates, I would think it should bring $35 or so.

Highlight of my trip this weekend was letting my 3 year old granddaughter paint my fingernails blue.

Went to a physical therapist today, I have 2 bummed rotator cuffs and am approaching carpal tunnel in 2 wrists.
Looks like my remodeling days are over.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 11:17:47 PST   Listings
Postal,
When your investigating electric tankless water heaters, make sure you have the space and ampacity available in your service panel to handle a tankless. The load demand will be higher with a tankless.
Lynn
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 11:07:15 PST   Listings
Jeff Tankless water heaters are electric I believe. If that is the case there can be but one problem, the heating element. If it is gas then as Jim said, the thermocoupler would be my first test.

charlie
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 10:29:59 PST   Listings
NOIP… Yipes!

Jeff… Sorry, don’t know much about those instant water heaters, but I think there’s a thermocouple involved, and with heaters and such those are the first element that goes haywire.

I thought you might be interested in this. I mentioned it on the board when you were out of town.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 10:12:35 PST   Listings
I haven't been following the "pink" discussion as it's not within my collecting area. Alec, how about that Germany O3/D65 which was discussed briefly a few days ago, did you see the scan? Was it you who said cancels woth hours weren't in use until after a certain date?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 09:57:38 PST   Listings
BTW - my 10-year old water heater is starting to get erratic on its heating.
Anyone have any experience with the tankless water heaters?
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 09:53:35 PST   Listings
In China he telephone number 8888-8888 was sold for USD $270723.
I wonder how much I can sell my 8888 feedback for.

Oops, hope that isn't construed as business.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 09:48:09 PST   Listings
alec If I had to start over with a new collection I might give Central Lithuania a try. Not too many stamps to complete, lots of errors/misprints ets. I have had to restrain myself several times in the last few months to keep from buying several large lots and going from there. Probably would not get into postal history. I suspect that would be much harder and more expensive.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 09:04:16 PST   Listings
Pink Debate
I wouldn't like to see any of the posters here leave the board. Each and everyone of you has something worthwhile to contribute. Please do not let a disagreement stand in the way of anybody feeling unwelcome. Healthy debates are good and if nothing else it gives us non experts an insight into how difficult things can be.

Believe me the US experts are not alone. Experts from all over the world I know have either made a mistake or had their opinion questioned. Remember as technology and research progress's opinions offered say 5 years ago may change based on new findings. End of the day it's a hobby we all enjoy so let's not forget that.

I think fair to say all sides have expressed their opinion and now is the time to draw a line under this particular subject.

Who has something else they wish to discuss or show? How about if you had to choose a new area to collect what would it be and why?

For me it would be some other countries inflation period postal history, or the US civil war. First, because I already specialize in German inflation and the second because that period of history has always fascinated me.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 07:13:02 PST   Listings
Jim B;

"Another cert will not lead anywhere". Yes it will. It will add several more expertizers who will disagree with your opinion on this stamp. We already have (here) myself, Ken Srail and Clark Fraser, versus you who keeps insisting that a "side by side" photo comparison should be the definitive test, rather than the hand's-on examination which has already been performed by APEX. By the way, I have been told by Mercer Bristow that the examiners on this stamp were me, Jim Lee and Rich Drews. So now we are certain that there are, so far, five respected expertizers who believe the stamp is pink. Versus you..............

Mitchell;

Thank you very much!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 06:06:13 PST   Listings
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Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 01:18:41 PST   Listings
Years ago I thought I had come up with a really slick way to compare perfs on a scanned stamp.

Then it became apparent that others were using the same technique - when I saw it described online as the Srail Test. (smiley)

-Dunc

PS: I did come up with one unique invention of my own, though; a Universal Solvent, a liquid that will eat through ANYTHING.

Now I'm working on something to store it in.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 00:45:41 PST   Listings
I will have come in out of the cold and say something. I have to agree with Ken Srail and Bill Weiss that the stamp on the cover appears to be a pink shade. I am sure that the stamp was subjected tests with various light frequencies while being expertized. Long wave UV light can be used because 64 and 64b candidates may appear brighter than ordinary 65 examples from later printings. While I don't expertize this issue, I believe that it is time to say something, particularly about the unjustified attacks on the APS.

Reasons that stamps may be examined by three or more expertizers include making sure that nothing is missed or to have it viewed by specialists in different subject areas, like perforations or cancels. While many stamp dealers have enough street smarts to find common problems like bad gum, reperforation or damage, more specialized tools are often needed. In some cases, more science is needed in expertizing, but this remark applies to all of the committees.

I recently examined a 356 or a 338 with trimmed edges for an expertizing committee. Four expertizers had looked at it previously. The first opinion from a well known expert was that it was genuine. The second highly regarded expert declared it to be a trimmed 338. A third well known expert would not make a determination and a fourth said it was genuine. It was relatively easy using 1600 dpi images and Scott Trepel's technique to determine that the top and bottom edges were not parallel and were fairly roughly cut. In order to be sure, I compared the image with ones from a 356 line pair with a PF certificate. After the comparison, I could be sure.

Every expertizer must have access to reference material, books and other resources to help make an informed opinion. Since all of the US expertizing committees share some of the same experts, it is difficult to support some of the accusations made in previous posts. It is not unknown for an expertizer or someone transcribing written notes to make an error and pick out the wrong corner or side. If I recall the stamp referred to earlier, it was too small for starters. After that, which side or sides were reperforated is not that important. A cut pie won't miss another slice.

Ken and Bill - Keep up the good work. You have more patience than I do.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-16-09 at 00:17:15 PST   Listings
Bill W. Don't go!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 23:00:32 PST   Listings
Jawild...Jim, I agree that the the lack of good vertical alignment of the perfs on your stamp is troubling, and probably a more serious problem, however, my point is that a comparison of a suspect perf row with itself will tend to artificially exagerate any minor horizontal alignment discrepancies. A comparison with the perfs from one of the other three sides (or with a row from another reliable reference stamp) will give a better view of the true perf alignment.

Dana

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 22:48:13 PST   Listings
Dana… Some slight misalignment will always be present, and no test I know of is fool proof. The flip test’s usefulness is pointing out when the misalignment is gross and unmistakable. If you look at my example, after the perfs are matched up you can see just the kind of minor misalignment your example demonstrates.

The fact is perforations get twisted somewhat out of shape when the stamps are separated. So no test can ever be 100% foolproof, even, probably, electron micrograph studies. But this falls wildly outside normal expected deviations. Not only are the holes unevenly spaced, they stray markedly from a straight line and their round edges are generally much more cleanly cut than the perf holes on the other three sides. All of which, to me, spells trouble.

Just my 2¢ though…

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 22:33:34 PST   Listings
jaywild...Jim, while I have no experienced opinion regarding whether your Scott 23 is reperfed at bottom or not, I believe that your flip test exagerates any discrepancies, and that Ken's image is more reasonable. I will try to illustrate the problem with a graphical image. The top example shows a comparison of two hypothetically perfect perf rows. They all line up perfectly, as expected. In the second example, the upper row has one perf offset one pixel to the right, while the lower row is the same perfect row as on the first example. As you see, there is only one discrepancy, as shown by the diagonal line. In an actual stamp, this would correspond to a comparison of the suspect perf row with one of the other three sides, or with a row from a known reference stamp. The third example is your flip test. Here the suspect row is compared with itself, only inverted and reversed. As can be seen, now there appears to be four discrepancies. The extra discrepancies are an artifact of the comparison technique, and not of the stamp. A proper comparison will always involve comparison with an independent row of presumptively good perfs, as in example two.

Regards, Dana

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 22:09:36 PST   Listings
Bill… Um—same goes for your thinking I am “trying to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes.”

You have imagined a plot where there isn’t one.

What in the world would I stand to gain, especially when I have made it abundantly clear that I have no interest in changing anyone’s mind on this topic?

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 22:02:38 PST   Listings
Bill… Last word, because you want to beat these things to death and beyond. First, please calm down. Nobody is attacking you, nobody is trying to change your mind.

I will scan my pink and rose pink next to your “pink”, or furnish my stamps to you for the same purpose. If that doesn’t measure up to “being unwilling to back up [my] opinion with money” I can’t help you.

Amongst bad certs, in my opinion, they are no more numerous than the 64-64a-64b pinks. Therefore yet another cert will not lead anywhere, whereas a side-by-side, unaltered photographic comparison would. Might not change any minds, but another cert, especially with a conclusion at odds with the first, would only throw gas on the fire.

To be frank, if you can’t refrain from being rude (i.e. “blowing wind”, “put up or shut up” etc.) then if there is a discussion that you’re itching to join in, I think it would be best for the discussion’s sake if you kept out of it. You can always convey unhappiness about blowing wind and why-don’t-they-put-up-or-shut-up in private messages.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 21:36:38 PST   Listings
Jim B;

Look, I don't mind a little healthy debate when I feel the other party is being fair........but you are not. First of all, you did not state an opinion when you first put up a link here to the stamp. What you said was "NOT A PINK". You didn't say "In my opinion, this is not a pink". Therefore, you were making what you believed to be a factual statement. You were holding yourself up to be the judge and jury on the stamp.

Second, I'm not trying to get into a "proving contest" as you call it. I'm merely trying to stand behind my opinion and back up my opinion with my money - something you are obviously unwilling to do. So be it. Your choice. I'll let everyone decide for themselves whose opinion counts more, yours or mine.

Last, if you prefer that I not join in these discussions, I will be happy to comply , however you can see that it was not me who first challanged your incorrect opinion, it was Ken Srail, so even if you manage to chase me away, there are always going to be folks who will be watching who just might realize that it is y-o-u who are trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 20:51:08 PST   Listings
NOIP… Does anyone understand Chinese enough to read this, red ink, yellow arrow? The number seems to be “86”, which corresponds to the year 1986, so is the rest of it the month and day, perhaps?

I know Iomoon knows some Chinese.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 20:04:23 PST   Listings
Bill Weiss… If you do buy this stamp I will be more than happy to scan it right next to my certified pink, as well as the certified rose pink, and then you can compare the colors for yourself. I will pay all expenses such as insurance etc, registered mail etc. Or I can send my pink and rose pink to you, also at my expense, to have you scan them together with this stamp.

Such a direct comparison, to me, should prove far more conclusive than yet another certificate.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 19:54:43 PST   Listings
Bill Weiss…

The seller whose stamps were pulled was me, jaywild. In fighting this I dealt directly with Frank Sente, who reversed all of the decisions but the one I explained about. It was he who told me that the decision was Mercer Bristow’s—so your characterization of me as “blowing wind” is simply off the mark. I could retort that wind is being blown, and it’s coming from you and not from your mouth, but I’ll leave that for others to conclude.

(Um, that’s a joke Bill.)

Sorry, but I have no interest in buying a stamp that I believe is misidentified. If you wish to prove the point, which you evidently do to the extent of purchasing the stamp with your own money, then please do so. But my declining to enter into a “proving” contest means nothing except perhaps to you. I have better things to do than try to change anybody’s mind about anything.

And please—simple decency, which you frankly do not exhibit very often, requires refraining from telling people you disagree with to “put up or shut up”. Neither do my arguments constitute “word minipulation (sic)”. You can either take them or leave them, and if you feel “manipulated” you can always ignore the discussion to avoid any possible contingent risk.

I have no interest in changing your opinion about that stamp. What I expressed here was my opinion, and then backed it up with my reasoning when it was challenged. Nowhere have I made an appeal for you to join my point of view. I am perfectly comfortable with you believing whatever you want regarding that stamp.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 19:30:08 PST   Listings
Jaywild;

I must say that you are indeed a master at word minipulation, so let's try to stay with some facts;

Let's assume for the sake of the discussion that you are correct, that the 1c #23 is indeed reperfed at the bottom - even though Ken Srail seems to demonstrate that it might not be - so here you are, years after the fact, putting down Mercer because the cert. bears his signature as the Administrator of the committee? I seriously doubt that he actually expertized the stamp. That's generally not how it works. The stamp is sent out to individual examiners, like me, and after I give my opinion by noting on a preprinted work sheet what I find (by checking off boxes for each fault that I find as well as adding any notes), the item and workshet are returned to APS, who then normally sends it out to the next expertizer, who does the same examination. It is true that the chairman or administrator of the committee is also the "finalizer" in terms of deciding the exact description that will appear on the certificate, but he rarely will personally examine the stamp unless there are differences of opinion between the examiners. In the case of your 1c, if each examiner basically agreed on the description, there is no good reason for him to expertize it himself, and it is a real stretch on your part to attempt to hold him liable for your perceived misdescription.

By the way, you may not realize it, but Mercer was a professional auction describer for Matthew Bennett Auctions before coming to APS, so he is no slouch when it comes to expertizing.

I agree with those who say that expertizers should be willing to discuss and justify opinions they have made. Unfortunately, no current expert committees operate that way. Only the old PSE system was such that the examiner's names would appear on the certificates, and I have always felt that system was by far the best. Unfortunately, when Collector's Universe bought PSE, they eventually abandoned that method, which is a shame.

As I think I have said here before, common sense dictates that until there is some computerized method for identifying shades/colors of stamps, some stamp colors will always be contentious, and different expertizers will identify shades differently. It happens all the time. There is no solution to this. These are opinions formed by human beings based on their experience combined with their visual perception of what they are looking at. It is not an exact science.

In another part of one of your posts you claim that items were pulled off of eBay at Mercer's instigation, which I would say is absolutely not true. At no time did Mercer (to my knowledge) ever have anything "hands-on" to do with the eBay stampwatch committee and the APS involvement in it. It is well known that the Society representative in that program was Frank Sente, not Mercer Bristow, so it would not have been Mercer who was involved, so I think you are just blowing wind again.

And speaking of blowing wind, I am going to end this long post (my apology, but you give lots of reasons for making me want to post opposing views) with an offer to you to give you the opportunity to put up or shut up by backing up what you claim about that 3c stamp on cover with your money. I propose to you that you and I go in partners and buy that 3c stamp cut out on cover with the APEX cert. which you claim is wrong, and we will then submit it to the other committee of YOUR choice (PSE, PF or PSAG) and if the committee you choose identifies that stamp as a #65, I will pay for the cost of the stamp (giving you back your 50%) AND I will pay for the cost of the certificate. On the other hand, if they do identify it as a #64, then YOU must give me back my 50% and YOU must pay for the certificate.

Just say the word that you agree, and I will even be a good guy and put up the initial purchase price and contact the seller to arrange the transaction. Just say the word.................................
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 18:42:57 PST   Listings
richwong
Wow. So it was just someone at the perforator having a bad day? ThanKs for the explanation. Didn't know whether the employee/operator was a bit drunk when it was done, or if it was just a usual occurance. Probably not even worth a mention. ThanKs again.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 18:27:37 PST   Listings
Mark Regarding your perfin at 17:16:45, it looks to me like an S B over S A. On the first perfing run, the perfins were not centered on the stamp - the perfin was split so - 1) the left B over A show at the right side with partial dots in the perfs of the right S over S and 2) the right S over S shows at the left side. The stamp was then turned 90 degrees and reperfed S B over S A reading down. The top S B overran the previous S over S.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:36:02 PST   Listings
In quick reply Mark no the stamps of Danzig are mostly quite common. Covers though to foreign destinations with an extra service paid for are not so common, with some rates and destinations being particularly scarce.

If memory serves Charlie T even found another Danzig item for the same friend to South America. Now it really is bed time for me. Goodnight all.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:30:08 PST   Listings
Mark Don't worry about it. But in answer to your question the first vertical pair pefins look wrong. Double print or just designed as random perfin holes I have no idea. Perhaps of interest to someone but they would need to see scan of the front also I reckon. In general most collectors view perfins as being worth far less than the normal but certainly there are those specialists who look for such things also. What they are willing to pay is another matter.

1.30am here and off to bed.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:27:07 PST   Listings
infla-alec
Are Danzig stamps difficult to obtain? Banknotes from there certainly are; and pricey, too. I only have one.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:25:06 PST   Listings
All
Actually hadn't meant to break/bend/ or otherwise mutilate a rule that time around. Was just really curious about the perfin in question. And thus appealed to anyone here who might know about it. Sorry if appearances were otherwise.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:18:57 PST   Listings
Mark I quite enjoy your showing Revenues but I would be very careful with how you word your posts. Ebay will look upon anything which suggests one look at a posters current listings as solicitation and if not careful they can ban you from here or even pull all your auctions.

Don't take my comment to heart just trying to make you aware of the rules here. Many of us list and don't ask questions about current items. Questions before listings is fine and most welcome but if everyone came on with solicting posts then this board would be far less interesting for the majority.

Charlie T No idea why that was pulled but obviously ebay saw something wrong or an expert did and reported the item.

Jim D Great example of how to flip perfs comparison page. Thanks.

Nice find for a friend Yesterday I was able to find a really nice Danzig foreign declared value cover. Not my area but one a friend just happened to mention the other week how scarce some foreign mail items are from Danzig. This being one of them. Reverse has all the wax seals intact and the desired transit cancels.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:16:45 PST   Listings
AnyOne Helpful
Is the perfin on
this stamp
normal, doubled, or a train wreck? It just doesn't look right to me. But I don't know sqat about ww stamps, revenue or otherwise. ThanKs for your help.
-Mark
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:15:28 PST   Listings
Expertization Committee This goes back to the crux of the discussion a couple of weeks ago. I don't have near the knowledge required to speak on the subject as to whether or not the stamp is genuine or not, I would however, be very interested in what Bill W. or Ken L would have to say about the stamp. Obviously someone had reservations about the issue as the lot has been pulled. Whom ever that may be matters not, it has been pulled.

The bottom line is there was no chance that all of the expertizing committee's out there would have agreed as to the authenticity of this stamp or for that matter many others, I'm sure. A case in point, the on going conversation between jaywild and Ken S. Both gentleman are each in their own way highly respected in the field. Neither can agree upon perfs nor shades. How could one trust spending their own money to have a stamp expertized, when it has already been demostrated that the "committee's" cannot agree. IMO, until science prevails the necessary equiptment that can recognize color shades etc., this argument will continue. I see no other answer. Your eyes sees carmine, mine sees carmine rose whos right? A standard must be established.

Bill W has proven that he is willing to address this problem and already invested his time and efforts into finding a solution. APEX has offered to come to the table, I believe that one of the other committee's have offered to sit down also. Where are the others? One I believe has to have his lawyers examine the concept, what a can of crap that is! I would bet you a $100 bucks right now his lawyer would tell him to go and find out what there talking about 1st and then lets look at it. You have to ask yourself, what are the motives? One more thing and the rant is over.
A MAN THAT IS AFFRAID TO PUT HIS NAME ON HIS WORK. What is he really saying about the quality of his work??????
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:09:28 PST   Listings
Well I'll be derned: That's the first time I ever had the e*ba*y mod*era*tion te*am remove a post I made. Well, shucks!!
-Mark
(samples)
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 17:02:19 PST   Listings
Ken S… Last point, and it is my view only—if someone is going to make a profession of “expertizing”, in whatever field, then they must be prepared to stand up to scrutiny, and also criticism, sometimes severe, for his failures. Nobody should get a pass based solely on perceived “hard work” as has been suggested here. The guy who digs ditches does “hard work” too. I have, and will continue to do so, scrutinized all certificates aggressively for the sole purpose of protecting my own interests.

The history of U.S. stamp expertizing has had some pretty sorry episodes over the past forty years. An abundance of laughable certificates have gone out, and anybody who has serious collected U.S. classics is aware of the horror stories. This has been one of them (or two, or three, depending on how you count).

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 16:57:05 PST   Listings
Duh............. forgot to state WHY I would like you to look. Is the one showing the back of the stamp messed up? Doubled perfin or just a really, really weird perfin job? Or is it normal?
-Help!!!!!!
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 16:48:37 PST   Listings
charlietuna… Since that “cap on right 2 only” lot has been pulled, I wouldn’t subsequently touch it with a ten foot pole! I don’t know what’s going on, but too many alarm bells for me.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 16:46:18 PST   Listings
Ken S… My point was only that there are no expertizers who signed that certificate. The signers are—
  1. Bob Lamb (APS Authorized Signature)
  2. J P (?) Savanese (?) (ASDA Authorized Signature—ASDA is American Stamp Dealers Association)
  3. Mercer Bristow (Administrator Signature)
So then since no expert signed the certificate, what’s the point of having it signed? The signatures must stand for something, and I believe they do—a validation of the opinion expressed above.

My “flip comparison” was done using the row of perfs themselves. If you copy them, flip them around and fit them together again, any irregularity will pop out. If they are uniform and regular (i.e. genuine) they will fit together nicely. See here for an demonstration.

I don’t know what you did to achieve the image you posted. You didn’t use the same perfs. When I do such a test I look for anomalies—I’m not trying to manipulate them in order to hide some weirdness or make it go away. I don’t see the point in that.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 16:32:44 PST   Listings
alec The lot appears to have been pulled. HMMMMMM..

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 16:10:31 PST   Listings
Committee Expertization Obviously there are differences of opinion regarding the "Pink 3 cent". Not knowing about US shades I won't even try and hazard a guess as to who is right or wrong.

What I still find quite astounding is that any expert committee can testify to something being genuine and then not reveal who exactly has determined that fact. What I wonder and I dare say others do also, is why any professional expert is not willing or does not insist on his name being assigned to any particular item? Fear of being proven wrong by another expert or committee?

I realise that the US expertization system is very different and they have several issues where to say the least there are problematic areas. However that said surely something such as, almost certainly being reperfed should be mentioned?

Out of interest do the US expertization organizations have an age limit where the experts they use can offer opinions?

Charlie T Using the "capped 2 at right" as another example of contention who is to say that another expert committee would agree with the certificate given? Which is really the crux of the matter just who is the collector supposed to trust with his submissions? That aside I can't see anyone spending $50 K on something no longer listed in Scott. Nor do I understand why the seller has it listed on ebay or even why he is offering a donation to the PF if sold. The "No returns policy" for me sets alarm bells ringing also.
Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 15:02:30 PST   Listings
I'd assume the "administrator" is signing off on the process and the experts are signing off on the opinion.

I won't argue too strongly that the perfs on the 23 are good (it looks at least partially reperforated to me,) but you definitely showed it in the worst possible light. Another "test" (showing it in the "best" possible light) might leave a different impression -- maybe even different enough that you'd defend the opinion of the experts who examined it...

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 10:48:07 PST   Listings
Ken S… Well let me pose a hypothetical—if you were “Administrator” at a reputable expertizer would you let this stamp go out under your signature as being “genuine in all respects”? I would not. I would consider it my duty to examine what I am agreeing to and reject those conclusions I disagreed with regardless of how many people, experts or not, saw otherwise. And as I say Bristow defended the cert in discussion, so the point is moot, or should be.

ps None of the signers of that cert identify themselves as expertizers BTW.

Posted by   ( ) on Nov-15-09 at 10:15:22 PST   Listings
jaywild, I believe Mercer signs the certificates as an administrator, not an expertizer. Those who actually examine a stamp for APS aren't required to sign the certificate (Ken L. or Bill W. can comment more on the process.) My understanding is that Mercer's signature on a certificate doesn't signify he examined the stamp.

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